Comments for Lilly's Friends http://www.lillysfriends.com Resources for the bully rescuer Mon, 30 May 2011 14:50:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by Sally SoSo http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Sally SoSo Mon, 30 May 2011 14:50:50 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-59 I have seen more than my fair share of animals euthianized. Yes I have seen one spaspm and jerk, he was not administered the sedative first becuase the stupid vet forgot. That is why a sedative is required first, then the euth liquid. Defecating on themselves is natural, its what happens when we die. Euthinasia is a good thing sometimes, shoot there is a horse rescue that if the horse does not find a home in a set amount of months they do euthinize so that they can have more room. Death is not a bad thing, we cannot save them all, there are way more animals than there are people. But i do think owners should be responsible and instead of taking them to a shelter they should go ahead and see about getting them euthed from their vet. Also one thing that would stop alot of people from taking dogs to the pound, start charging a $150 fee to drop the animal off. yeah the animals may get a higher chance of being dumped but hey there are people like me who have picked up strays all their life, I have had so many go through my heart its not even funny. I have seen more than my fair share of animals euthianized. Yes I have seen one spaspm and jerk, he was not administered the sedative first becuase the stupid vet forgot. That is why a sedative is required first, then the euth liquid. Defecating on themselves is natural, its what happens when we die. Euthinasia is a good thing sometimes, shoot there is a horse rescue that if the horse does not find a home in a set amount of months they do euthinize so that they can have more room. Death is not a bad thing, we cannot save them all, there are way more animals than there are people. But i do think owners should be responsible and instead of taking them to a shelter they should go ahead and see about getting them euthed from their vet. Also one thing that would stop alot of people from taking dogs to the pound, start charging a $150 fee to drop the animal off. yeah the animals may get a higher chance of being dumped but hey there are people like me who have picked up strays all their life, I have had so many go through my heart its not even funny.

]]> Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by Mom http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Mom Mon, 30 May 2011 14:31:11 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-58 Matthew, While yes most of us with a heart do bawl our eyes out and I do applaud you for speaking the truth many of us knew - you personally DO NOT HAVE to have that job. TBH, I know I couldn't because I love & care about animals too much. Yes, if you don't have it someone else will but you've added that personal side to it so I am responding to that. Yes, dealing with that much death would haunt anyone with a heart but you choose to personally see those images. There are many killpounds across the US & UK going "no kill". I cannot call the place you describe a "shelter" because of the very definition of that word. I wish you and other shelter managers would consider what cities like Austin TX (which now only has a 10% kill rate) are doing. I don't know if you're reading this still after so much time or get alerted to comments but, tbh if I were you I would highly consider another "career" choice. It angers me that "shelter managers" think it has to be this way, because it doesn't. Please look up the "No Kill Revolution" information because they even hold seminars to help. As to the people who take animals to such a place, well they should be notified when the animal is killed imo even with a picture if someone wants to add a dose of "reality". Sometimes it isn't the owners fault - either ill or deceased, but there are a lot of non profits out there who can help even though many now are also overfull. If anyone cares about the precious lives being wasted then please there are many ways to help - adopt don't buy your own companion, crossposting kill lists across social media takes only a moment of time but can make the difference between life & death, helping to educate people about spaying, neutering, adopting the animals which also doesn't cost any money, volunteering time with local charities for animals if you can't stomache going into a killpound, donating money to humane organisations who do not kill their animal charges, sending petitions to lawmakers askinf for atrocities to end (look up Miami Dade & NY ACC for 2 big ones, or attending rallies & peaceful gatherings to also bring awareness. These are only a few thoughts as many of us have quite a number on this emotional subject. Blessings to all & their companions and please "share the love" not hate. Matthew, While yes most of us with a heart do bawl our eyes out and I do applaud you for speaking the truth many of us knew – you personally DO NOT HAVE to have that job. TBH, I know I couldn’t because I love & care about animals too much. Yes, if you don’t have it someone else will but you’ve added that personal side to it so I am responding to that. Yes, dealing with that much death would haunt anyone with a heart but you choose to personally see those images. There are many killpounds across the US & UK going “no kill”. I cannot call the place you describe a “shelter” because of the very definition of that word. I wish you and other shelter managers would consider what cities like Austin TX (which now only has a 10% kill rate) are doing. I don’t know if you’re reading this still after so much time or get alerted to comments but, tbh if I were you I would highly consider another “career” choice. It angers me that “shelter managers” think it has to be this way, because it doesn’t. Please look up the “No Kill Revolution” information because they even hold seminars to help. As to the people who take animals to such a place, well they should be notified when the animal is killed imo even with a picture if someone wants to add a dose of “reality”. Sometimes it isn’t the owners fault – either ill or deceased, but there are a lot of non profits out there who can help even though many now are also overfull. If anyone cares about the precious lives being wasted then please there are many ways to help – adopt don’t buy your own companion, crossposting kill lists across social media takes only a moment of time but can make the difference between life & death, helping to educate people about spaying, neutering, adopting the animals which also doesn’t cost any money, volunteering time with local charities for animals if you can’t stomache going into a killpound, donating money to humane organisations who do not kill their animal charges, sending petitions to lawmakers askinf for atrocities to end (look up Miami Dade & NY ACC for 2 big ones, or attending rallies & peaceful gatherings to also bring awareness. These are only a few thoughts as many of us have quite a number on this emotional subject. Blessings to all & their companions and please “share the love” not hate.

]]> Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by Gem http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-57 Gem Mon, 30 May 2011 04:23:46 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-57 I have to dogs. A GSD/Border collie and a Rott/Lab The GSD mix was in the city sheter and had kennel cough and was in the euthanasia room waiting her death. A local no kill shelter who had worker who was friendly with the people in the city shelter went in there and saved her and all the others that day. A week later, she was home with me and I have had her for the past 8 years. The Rott x's owner was an older gentleman who passed away. He lived near a friend of mine who brought her to the warehouse where she worked, thinking to make her the warehouses second dog. (not a vicious dog jut the presence of one is enough to deter break in's) But I fell in love with her and home with me she came. I am one of the few who wold rather adopt an older dog then a puppy. Adopt rather then buy. All of my Cats and dogs have been either a shelter rescue or a street rescue or a " they need a better home" rescue. Thank you for writing this. I am in your boat and know what goes on behind the scenes at a shelter. It sucks! I have to dogs. A GSD/Border collie and a Rott/Lab The GSD mix was in the city sheter and had kennel cough and was in the euthanasia room waiting her death. A local no kill shelter who had worker who was friendly with the people in the city shelter went in there and saved her and all the others that day. A week later, she was home with me and I have had her for the past 8 years.

The Rott x’s owner was an older gentleman who passed away. He lived near a friend of mine who brought her to the warehouse where she worked, thinking to make her the warehouses second dog. (not a vicious dog jut the presence of one is enough to deter break in’s) But I fell in love with her and home with me she came.

I am one of the few who wold rather adopt an older dog then a puppy. Adopt rather then buy. All of my Cats and dogs have been either a shelter rescue or a street rescue or a ” they need a better home” rescue.

Thank you for writing this. I am in your boat and know what goes on behind the scenes at a shelter. It sucks!

]]> Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by Louise Gallagher http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-56 Louise Gallagher Sun, 29 May 2011 12:09:12 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-56 This is heartbreaking. It hurts me that people look at them as "just a dog". If they could feel the pain they put on our companion animals perhaps they would be more compassionate. They need to see the saddness in a shelter for a while to snap them into real life. This is heartbreaking. It hurts me that people look at them as “just a dog”. If they could feel the pain they put on our companion animals perhaps they would be more compassionate. They need to see the saddness in a shelter for a while to snap them into real life.

]]> Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by Cherri http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Cherri Sun, 29 May 2011 02:21:21 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-55 Matthew, I am one of the ones bawling their eyes out. The sadder truth is, the people who NEED to see this won't care enough to read it. I adopted a lab mix from a friend who was going to bring her to the shelter because she "didn't have enough time". I had her for 16 wonderful years. Some time after she died, my husband and I decided it was time bring a new member of the family. We ended up coming home with 2 springer spaniels (sisters). They are a joy. I wish people would understand THEIR responsibility in how a pet behaves. It is no different then raising a child. It takes time, patience, and a lot of positive reinforcement. Although this artical is difficult to read, I appreciate you sharing your experience. Perhaps the breeders need to put in some mandatory time in the back, or the people giving them up should have to be present for what happens later...then maybe they would think twice about doing it again. Sorry, just had to vent a little. This really bothers me. How can we get people to understand that a shelter is not a jail, and that most animals there did nothing wrong? Matthew,

I am one of the ones bawling their eyes out. The sadder truth is, the people who NEED to see this won’t care enough to read it. I adopted a lab mix from a friend who was going to bring her to the shelter because she “didn’t have enough time”. I had her for 16 wonderful years. Some time after she died, my husband and I decided it was time bring a new member of the family. We ended up coming home with 2 springer spaniels (sisters). They are a joy. I wish people would understand THEIR responsibility in how a pet behaves. It is no different then raising a child. It takes time, patience, and a lot of positive reinforcement. Although this artical is difficult to read, I appreciate you sharing your experience. Perhaps the breeders need to put in some mandatory time in the back, or the people giving them up should have to be present for what happens later…then maybe they would think twice about doing it again. Sorry, just had to vent a little. This really bothers me. How can we get people to understand that a shelter is not a jail, and that most animals there did nothing wrong?

]]> Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by amp http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-52 amp Thu, 26 May 2011 20:44:08 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-52 Thank you. I hope your job becomes obsolete in my lifetime. I mean that in the nicest way. Thank you. I hope your job becomes obsolete in my lifetime. I mean that in the nicest way.

]]> Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by Doris Rauh http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Doris Rauh Wed, 25 May 2011 22:08:55 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-51 Living in Germany and not having animal-kill-shelters at all (naming an animal kill station shelter is contradictory per se!) this is beyond my understanding, that such concentration camps do exist on US territory. Not devoloping castration programs or prohibiting all these ruthless backyard breeders from their doing, but maintaining this Holocaust on helpless and wonderful creatures instead, puts in my point of view the US on this miserable level of countries such as Romania, Bulgaria or Turkey, that are damned behind in concern of protecting the animals that had the bad luck to get born there. Matthew, I fully understand, that you hate this job and I can tell you, that I would turn into a killer, if someone delivered me his dog or cat - well knowing, that it never will leave these walls alive. These people are not worth being called humans and I feel ashame for each of them. I have 7 (mostly handicapped) cats, a blind dog from a Bulgarian shelter, 23 pigs rescued from slaughtery such as 4 cows and they are the most precious things in my life! May the anti-animal-kill wave, still at it´s very beginning win and please fast. It costs so many wonderful and loyal lifes otherwise!! "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way its animals are treated." -- Mahatma Gandhi Living in Germany and not having animal-kill-shelters at all (naming an animal kill station shelter is contradictory per se!) this is beyond my understanding, that such concentration camps do exist on US territory. Not devoloping castration programs or prohibiting all these ruthless backyard breeders from their doing, but maintaining this Holocaust on helpless and wonderful creatures instead, puts in my point of view the US on this miserable level of countries such as Romania, Bulgaria or Turkey, that are damned behind in concern of protecting the animals that had the bad luck to get born there. Matthew, I fully understand, that you hate this job and I can tell you, that I would turn into a killer, if someone delivered me his dog or cat – well knowing, that it never will leave these walls alive. These people are not worth being called humans and I feel ashame for each of them. I have 7 (mostly handicapped) cats, a blind dog from a Bulgarian shelter, 23 pigs rescued from slaughtery such as 4 cows and they are the most precious things in my life! May the anti-animal-kill wave, still at it´s very beginning win and please fast. It costs so many wonderful and loyal lifes otherwise!!
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way its animals are treated.” — Mahatma Gandhi

]]> Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by cat supplies http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-49 cat supplies Thu, 05 May 2011 08:18:12 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-49 Thanks for sharing – I have adopted 5 animals, because I have volunteered and witnessed things people should never have to see if they love animals.We recently adopted a senior dog who is deaf and has really bad arthritis, we are giving him a year or 2 with love and peace. People need to also realize in many parts of our country animals are still being shot, killed with heart sticks and baked in the gas chambers – I think euthanasia is a light term for what goes on in most county shelters. People need to own up to being responsible, what kills me most is these low class humans dumping their pets off at the shelter with the lamest excuse while they have their kids in tow – if we do not teach our children about being a responsible pet owner. Thanks for sharing – I have adopted 5 animals, because I have volunteered and witnessed things people should never have to see if they love animals.We recently adopted a senior dog who is deaf and has really bad arthritis, we are giving him a year or 2 with love and peace. People need to also realize in many parts of our country animals are still being shot, killed with heart sticks and baked in the gas chambers – I think euthanasia is a light term for what goes on in most county shelters. People need to own up to being responsible, what kills me most is these low class humans dumping their pets off at the shelter with the lamest excuse while they have their kids in tow – if we do not teach our children about being a responsible pet owner.

]]> Comment on A Letter from a Shelter Manager by Tavianna http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/08/a-letter-from-a-shelter-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Tavianna Sat, 20 Nov 2010 02:21:47 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=288#comment-22 BRAVO Matthew!!! A truly compelling story, the heartbreaking reality is that you are 100% correct. THANK YOU for sharing this and I hope it saves the life of a least one shelter pet. BRAVO Matthew!!! A truly compelling story, the heartbreaking reality is that you are 100% correct. THANK YOU for sharing this and I hope it saves the life of a least one shelter pet.

]]> Comment on Jake the dog left tied to a tree, needs to have his boys removed! by Matthew http://www.lillysfriends.com/2010/07/jake-the-dog-left-tied-to-a-tree-needs-to-have-his-boys-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Matthew Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:39:19 +0000 http://www.lillysfriends.com/?p=272#comment-9 Well his boys have been removed and he is doing well. We resume some simple leash training with him tomorrow morning at 10AM! Yeah, Go Jake! Well his boys have been removed and he is doing well. We resume some simple leash training with him tomorrow morning at 10AM! Yeah, Go Jake!

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